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When Voices Keep on Truckin'

Thursday, January 28, 2010

Last week, three days before turning 69, superstar tenor Placido Domingo appeared at the Metropolitan Opera at in title role of Verdi’s opera “Simon Boccanegra.” The reviews have been largely positive. Yet other singers have much less success with vocal preservation. Today, we look at how aging effects the voice, and why vocal longevity is admired in some cultures (India, for example) while in others, the vocal retirement age is quite young.

Joining us to explore this question is Sasha Frere-Jones, pop music critic of the New Yorker; Sheila Jordan, a veteran jazz singer; and Marlena Malas, who teaches opera students at the Juilliard School and the Manhattan School of Music.

Guests:

Sasha Frere- Jones, Sheila Jordan and Marlena Malas

Comments [38]

Megan Parry from Detroit

Please spell the name of the Indian raga singer whose voice we heard very briefly on this show. Thanks!

Jan. 29 2010 03:08 PM
Bill K. from Bel Air, MD

This subject is fascinating! I could write pages about it. This kid from the sixties is now listening closely to his favorite vocalists, hoping (mostly in vain) that they've managed to keep their chops. I just listened to some of Ringo Starr's VH1 live performance. We all know he wasn't a vocal force in The Beatles, yet he sounds exactly the same as he did when they became famous. Yes, it's an odd choice, but hearing him sing "With A Little Help From My Friends" gave me goosebumps. "Rock on one time for Ringo!"

Jan. 29 2010 01:20 PM
John O from Jackson Heights, NY

Debbie Harry's voice continues to improve as she ages. The work she did with the Jazz Passengers was the best.

Jan. 28 2010 10:31 PM
Adhoc from Chelsea

Grace Jones had a great album out last year and it sounds like she picked up where she left off in the 80s (she looks amazing, too!).

Jan. 28 2010 10:30 PM
maria from park slope

craig wedren from shudder to think still sings amazingly...i saw them at bowery ballroom a few months ago.

Jan. 28 2010 10:29 PM
Ian from weeki wachee fl

I think Sinatra is way ahead of anyone.His ''golden'' voice from the '40's became a wonderful instrument in the '50's when he did his best innovative work.Too bad he smoked and drank so much. He did say that he quit smokin' and drinkin' before a recording session. Some of the stuff the family is allowing out today are things he never would have agreed to. Great to hear the master though no matter how bad.

Jan. 28 2010 06:39 PM
Rocky Balboa from Grammercy Park

I thought that Domingo has lost a bit of the upper range in his voice but it's still mostly there. Maria Callas really lost hers early, likely from bad technique and an unhealthy lifestyle. Oy!

Jan. 28 2010 04:39 PM
Laura LeBleu from Brooklyn

Tom Jones has been singing for four decades and not only his voice is still amazingly pitch perfect, but his range is thoroughly intact.

I've seen him live three times - and not only is his voice still amazing, but he works that crowd like a maestro. It's awesome to watch!

(Um...I'm in my 30s BTW...)

Saw Rosemary Clooney a year before she died. Her voice had suffered from age, but had also been embued with a smoky, soulful quality that aren't present on her younger recordings. Her version of Fools Rush In on the Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil is probably my favorite because of this quality.

Jan. 28 2010 02:59 PM
Amy from Manhattan

How about Harry Belafonte? He famously does something different (that I don't really understand) w/his speaking voice to preserve his singing voice. Seems to be working as far as I can tell!

Jan. 28 2010 02:57 PM
Ken from CT

If you have the presence and musical leadership qualities of Pete Seeger, you can perform at any age. He turns his concerts into an audience sing-a-long and we love it. He humbly acknowledges that his voice is not what it used to be, the audience accepts it, and is happy to experience a legend in action.

Jan. 28 2010 02:55 PM
ruso from tbilisi, Georgia

:))) Bill withers has got terribly charming personality.Thank you for being alive :)

Jan. 28 2010 02:45 PM
ruso from tbilisi, Georgia

Billie holiday's voice was so peculiar, it could not be affiliated with any age. It was ageless.

Jan. 28 2010 02:42 PM
Cynthia from long island

Frank Sinatra never really SANG either exactly.

Jan. 28 2010 02:35 PM
Allie from long island city

I would love to add Melanie Safka to the list. I saw her at BB King's a couple years ago and her voice has just grown in richness and beauty!

Jan. 28 2010 02:35 PM
CJ from NY

Why is Glenn calling?

Jan. 28 2010 02:35 PM
Ellie

Bono's voice has aged beautifully although seems to be showing some signs of wear lately. I'm disappointed at what Sting's voice has turned into.

But my favorite singer (and this is going to sound self-serving) is my husband. His voice has changed into a gorgeous baratone growl over the course of our 20 relationship and his 25 year music career (www.lloydunited.com). It was nothing special when we first started dating and now he's got to be one of my favorite singers.

Jan. 28 2010 02:34 PM
Leslie from Brooklyn

Another voice that I loved is Diana Ross - "Don't Hurry Love" and "Love Child" were really amazing displays of her voice and range, but her age has affected some of that Motown perfection.

Jan. 28 2010 02:34 PM
George from Millwood, NY

Still great singers, perhaps even better than they were:
James Taylor
Don Henly
Elvis Costello

BTW, there is no need for anyone, under any circumstances, to go see Bob Dylan sing live. I am a huge Dylan fan and when I saw him last tour it was the most unintelligible, unlistenable singing I've ever witnessed...it sounded as if he was burping. If you want to view history, go to the Washington monument.

Jan. 28 2010 02:31 PM
Lori in Harrisburg from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania

Perfect example of hard living would be Whitney Houston. After years of alcohol and drug abuse you can really hear it in her music. She just doesn't have the "voice" that she used to. What a terrible shame.

Jan. 28 2010 02:29 PM
rob from nyc (ues)

Bob Dylan's voice was polarizing even in his youth, but I find it even more so now. I love the albums (including live albums) of his youth but find his notoriously abrasive concert style now irritating

Jan. 28 2010 02:29 PM
Vee from NYC

Tony Bennett is in his 80s and still going strong

Jan. 28 2010 02:28 PM
nana from NY

I'm surprised nobody mentioned Tom Waits!

Jan. 28 2010 02:27 PM
sylvester shippy from brooklyn ny

Johnny Fontane from the godfather. sure, he's fictional. but he lost his great singing voice to booze and smokes and had to move into big movie roles to save his career

Jan. 28 2010 02:27 PM
ellen from nyc

Dion DiMucci's voice and delivery have become so soulful.

Jan. 28 2010 02:27 PM
Neil Brown from Monmouth County, NJ

One voice that is still quite beautiful is that of George Beverly Shea, the long-time singer for Billy Graham. Very rich bass, very expressive. I believe he is well into his 90s.

Jan. 28 2010 02:26 PM
Andrew from Brooklyn Heights, NY

I loved Lauren Hill's raw soulful voice in the 90's, but it is almost completely lost now. I regret to say that this might not be an issue with age, as it might be with other factors.

Jan. 28 2010 02:26 PM
amy from nj

carly simon??

Jan. 28 2010 02:26 PM
George from NYC

Etta James... Need I say more?

Jan. 28 2010 02:25 PM
James Gathings

Stevie Wonder's voice is still amazing!

Jan. 28 2010 02:25 PM
phillip from nyc

annie ross's voice is is getting more and more beautiful and interesting as she gets older.
love all of the music she did for robert altman's film ""shortcuts"

Jan. 28 2010 02:23 PM
Mike from Manhattan

When I was an undergraduate at Indiana University in the 1970s, there was a teacher at the IU Music School named Ralph Appleman who was a bass. He was in his mid 60's and still sang Grunemanz in the annual Parsifal. He also was awarded a patent on a bio-feedback voice training machine that he intended to keep singers using their voices in a most natural way, but I think was mostly talked about for speech therapy.

Jan. 28 2010 02:23 PM
bosch from brooklyn

Often, the longer into their life a popular singer sings , the less "pretty" and/or "tonally accurate" their voice will sound, and the further away it will get from the quality of their youth. However, what increases are more sublime qualities like wisdom, weariness, honesty that are just as special and important to a listener. Obvious examples of this would be Dylan, Marianne Faithful, Johnny Cash.

Jan. 28 2010 02:21 PM
Cynthia from long island

Neti pot is an ayurvedic practice. You pour salty water in one nostril and let it drain out the other. It is very effective because nasal sprays go down your throat but with the neti pot, it just goes through the nasal passages and sinuses.

Jan. 28 2010 02:20 PM
bob from huntington

if you can't sing, or can't sing anymore, just speak it--like john trudell does. it works for him; it works for the material

most rock singers can't sing anything other than the idiosynchratic stuff they write for themselves, anyway. witness some of the embarassing attempts at harmonizing on the recent rock and roll hall of fame event HBO broadcast.

Jan. 28 2010 02:19 PM
Cynthia from long island

I agree. Leonard never really tried to sing.

Jan. 28 2010 02:14 PM
R from New York City

I guess never training or taking care of one's self is part of the issue.
But you can hear in Faithful's young voice that it's flawed, untrained, she hardly extends a note.

What about Judy Collins- she had a marvelous instrument that is now showing its age. Joni Mitchell, as well. (Smoker)

Marnie Nixon sounds AMAZING now - she always took excellent care of her voice, but she worked a lot.

Jan. 28 2010 02:13 PM
Maggie from new york

Keeping up the idiocy on Soundcheck. Marianne Faithful, trustworthy because "she lived it"??? She's a pampered aristocrat. Give me a break.

Jan. 28 2010 02:12 PM
Theresa from Brooklyn

One of my favorite singers is the baritone Thomas Allen, also in his 60s). Like a lot of promising singers in the '70s, he was invited to sing heavy roles by Karajan, and politely declined. And the landscape is littered with voices destroyed by HvK, but Sir Tom is still singing beautifully.

Jan. 28 2010 11:21 AM

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