michael B- what are you smoking ?

All a bunch of cliches of half-baked truths... as if Jazz had only one set of roots. Of course Jazz had roots in spirituals, but it was also based on the European tonal system (or doesn't that matter?) and there were strong influences of British Isles folk music/folk dance music (such as Scottish folk tunes.)

They DON'T share the same sensibility, they don't sound the same, there is a different harmonic aspect, different rhythms ... they just feel totally different. Aside from all that, they're identical (not!)

Jazz always has a smile on its face, even if it's a sad smile. At best, Rock has a smirk and at worst, a scowl. Different. Sensibility.

The comparisons don't hold up, but they are repeated ad nauseum by the music industry and their apologists because they are determined to somehow raise the status of rock and give it some kind of artistic legitimacy by continually linking it to Jazz.

Bogus and I ain't buying.

Dr., It's been a while since wehave had the pleasure of your company in Minneapolis. Any Dakota dates in the future?

This particular Dr. has been in my house since about 1969. Thanks so much for posting this podcast,'cause I can't never enough of the RRHOF Night Tripper!!

@allwhocommentonswingvsrock, both forms come from the Afro-American spiritual, a form which DJ is very familiar with. The spiritual can either swing or rock (listen to modern concert spirituals like those of Moses Hogan or Robert L. Morris), and oddly they can feel like both are happening at the same time. Also, it is authentic to let either one just come from the energy of music making. Descendants of African slaves would do just that. I wouldn't doubt that Armstrong rocked sometimes too, but he recorded to his niche. Tool is a prog rock band, but that doesnt stop them from jamming classic rock and freeform jazz.

so, we'll assume that music is relegated to a boxed in definition,RT? categories are fine,and so are definitions. but,there are very few things that i'll set in stone. i understand, what you're saying about rock and jazz;but,i think it's silly, to want to put dr john in either one;or, to of necessity think, that jazz has to swing, or that rock can only,well,"rock". i win by TKO...........

"Swing" as its known, is the essence of a good amount of Jazz -- most of it for at least half of its age. Every musical idiom has something that makes it unique -- that allows us to distinguish it from other idioms.

Don't water it down with sloppy comparisons to other forms. Jazz doesn't "rock" and rock doesn't swing. All you have to do is REALLY listen to either form to tell they don't share either aspect with each other.

But if it makes you feel good to say they do, then knock yourself out.

@ michael B- who in the world told you that there was just one way to swing ?

Sorry Siouxie, I appreciate Dr. John's music, but he doesn't swing. That's rock, and rock does NOT swing. It ain't the same idiom as what Satchmo played. Ever, either way.

Dr. John always swings (like Louie). Very much appreciating the show today.

Thanks from da Bronx

Have we heard anything about Pops yet? Other than that's why the good doctor is in NY this week?

Always great to hear you Mac. Will you be up at Levon's for any of the Rambles this year?

Be well, and merci beaucoup.

dr. john: if you did not have the hit, "right place, right time", [sorry if that's not the actual title of the song]do you think that your career, would have been significantly different? you've made great music,that for the most part, is not, big time commercially viable;not that that means a bloody damn thing. love your work sir